Vicars vs Wedding Photographers

April 9,2024

Wedding Planner and Events Management

Wedding Photographers Demand an End to 'Rude' Vicar Behaviour 

Wedding photographers across the UK are calling for an end to the "rude" and "abusive" behaviour they say they routinely experience from vicars. A petition highlighting the issue, garnering over 900 signatures, paints a picture of clergy members humiliating photographers, which photographers deem a "huge issue" within the wedding industry. 

Photographer Rachel Roberts, who initiated the petition, underscores the necessity of "resetting the relationship" between professionals. She stated her desire to initiate a "public conversation" about how photographers and clergy can collaboratively work together during church weddings. 

"The stories emerging are genuinely shocking," Roberts revealed to BBC Breakfast. "Consequently, many photographers and videographers now categorically refuse to work at church weddings." 

Roberts' motivation for starting the petition stemmed from witnessing a video circulating on social media. In the video, a vicar aggressively addressed a wedding photographer in front of a congregation filled with "horrified" wedding guests. 

Roberts also shared personal experiences, describing clergy requests for photographers to hide behind pillars or remain confined to the back of the church with limitations on the number of photos permitted. Furthermore, she recounted an incident where a vicar threatened to pause the entire wedding ceremony and demand her removal if she attempted to take a photo he deemed as taken at the "wrong time." 

In an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Roberts shared an anecdote about a wedding where she was instructed to remain in a single spot and refrain from making any noise. Ironically, the vicar then welcomed children to freely roam around the church grounds and play in the aisles. 

As the children generated an "absolute cacophony of noise," preventing anyone from hearing the vows being exchanged, Roberts couldn't help but feel as though a double standard existed. 

"Some dismiss the role of photographers, claiming they simply seek the 'shallow' elements of the day," she remarked. "Often, clergy members state, 'This is not Hollywood, it's not a photoshoot'." 

'His Way or the Highway' 

Sophie and John, a couple who held their wedding ceremony in a church during April 2022, spoke to BBC Breakfast about their own experiences. On their wedding day, they were informed that their hired photographer would be restricted to either the front or back of the church, with no movement allowed between the two. 

"We were devastated," Sophie shared. "Those photos of me walking down the aisle, seeing John's face at the altar – that's what we wanted most." 

Her husband added: "The vicar's approach was the real problem. His attitude was that it was his show, his way or the highway." 

Vicars Respond: Respecting the Ceremony 

Rev. Bryony Wood acknowledges that her experiences with wedding photographers have generally been positive. However, upon hearing about the negative encounters highlighted by Roberts' petition, she expressed her sincere regret. 

"Even though we strive for the best, some vicars can feel the pressure of the situation," Rev. Wood explained during her interview on the Today programme. 

Highlighting the legal nature of the wedding ceremony itself, she said, "If we get it wrong, the couple might not even be married." 

Rev. Wood further emphasized, "When couples are sharing their vows in quiet, intimate moments, the sound of a camera click or the movement of a photographer can automatically draw attention away from what's truly important." 

However, it seems that disruptive behavior can exist on both sides. One reverend shared his experiences with BBC Breakfast, describing photographers that have pushed him aside, stood directly between him and the couple during their vows, and even positioned themselves between the bride and groom. 

Rev. Anna Alls, a vicar serving six parishes in Nottinghamshire, offered her perspective to BBC Breakfast: "Openly communicating with the vicar about what's deemed appropriate is usually fine. The key is to avoid being in the vicar's face and causing distractions." 

Rev. Alls also points out a crucial logistical concern – the historical nature of many church buildings. These structures can be fragile, and photographers climbing atop medieval pulpits to achieve better camera angles could potentially cause significant damage. 

"I, like any vicar, invest tremendous effort in the planning of a wedding," Rev. Alls shared. "A lot is happening, and it can be incredibly stressful, with a need to remain on top of everything. I understand why clergy are protective of this environment; we certainly don't want distractions." 

Dr. Rowan Williams, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, offered his insights to the Sunday Times. He acknowledged that, sadly, some vicars can be described as a "complete pain" and overly controlling in their interactions with photographers. Nonetheless, he also highlights that photographers should maintain a respectful attitude, which is a reasonable expectation. 

Religious Weddings: A Declining Trend 

Data from the Office for National Statistics reveals a steady decline in the number of religious weddings in England and Wales. Civil wedding ceremonies comprised 76% of all marriages in 2016. That percentage notably climbed to a record high of 85.5% in 2020, though the unique circumstances of the Covid-19 pandemic likely impacted this figure. 

What's the Solution? 

Rachel Roberts, whose petition ignited this discourse, believes the best course of action involves open, honest communication. She hopes photographers and priests can find a way to build trust so they can work together in harmony. 

Roberts explains, "There has to be a level playing field of respect. Vicars need to appreciate that we're there to capture irreplaceable moments for the couple. And conversely, photographers have to realize that a solemn ceremony is taking place and must adapt accordingly. If we collaborate, everyone wins." 

Finding Common Ground: Tips for Harmony 

While the issue of disruptive photographer behavior at church weddings requires addressing, it's equally important for both sides to acknowledge potential solutions. Rachel Roberts emphasizes the necessity of open and constructive dialogue, with respect as the cornerstone of such communication. 

Here are a few tips to help photographers and vicars work together more effectively: 

Before the Wedding 

Clear Communication: The photographer and vicar should have a conversation well before the wedding day. This allows for the discussion of expectations, potential restrictions, and ideal camera placements within the church. 

Site Visit: Ideally, the photographer can visit the church in advance. This allows them to familiarize themselves with the layout, identify suitable shooting locations and note any potential obstacles or areas with sensitivity to light. 

During the Ceremony 

Dress Code: Photographers should dress in a way that's respectful of the setting. Dark, neutral colors that blend in are much better than brightly colored or attention-grabbing attire. 

Sound Matters: Muffling camera sounds as much as possible (silent mode, lens wraps, etc.) lessens disruption. 

Discreet Movement: When moving between positions is necessary, photographers should do so with minimal noise and avoid blocking guests' views. 

Respect Key Moments: The most crucial moments of the ceremony (vows, ring exchange) are sacrosanct. Avoid actions that pull focus away from the couple. 

Vicars Can Also Help 

Welcoming Attitude: A positive, open attitude from the vicar sets the tone for everyone in attendance, including the photographer. 

Clear Expectations: If any areas of the church are off-limits, let the photographer know beforehand. 

Brief the Congregation: During the welcome or just before the ceremony, a simple request from the vicar for guests to refrain from taking photos with phones or tablets can reduce visual distractions for the couple and allow the hired photographer the space needed to work. 

 

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The Role of Couples 

It's important to remember that couples ultimately hire both the photographer and the vicar. Therefore, they have a crucial role in facilitating a positive working environment. Here's what they can do: 

Communicate Wishes: Couples should clearly communicate their photography desires with both the photographer and the vicar. 

Act as a Mediator: If tensions arise, the couple can help bridge communication gaps and find solutions that respect both parties. 

Technology as an Ally 

Advances in camera technology mean modern photographers can capture incredible images in low-light conditions without excessive flashes. Investing in high-quality cameras and lenses minimizes the need for disruptive techniques. Additionally, remote cameras discreetly placed in areas pre-approved by the vicar can offer unique angles that complement the photographer's work. 

Industry Associations Offer Support 

Professional organizations, such as the British Institute of Professional Photography and the Master Photographers Association, provide resources and guidelines for their members. Many also engage with industry peers on behalf of photographers, including the clergy, to advocate for respectful working environments. 

The Importance of Post-Wedding Etiquette 

The responsibilities of the photographer and vicar don't end the minute the ceremony concludes. Thoughtful communication and actions even after the wedding day can strengthen working relationships and leave positive lasting impressions. 

For Photographers 

Timely Delivery: Couples eagerly anticipate their wedding photos. Photographers should provide an estimated date of delivery and make every effort to adhere to it. 

Gratitude: A simple thank you note to the vicar can go a long way. Acknowledging their role in the wedding day demonstrates professionalism. 

Sharing Images: If appropriate (and only if permission is obtained from the couple), photographers may consider sending the vicar a few curated images from the wedding. This gesture can build bridges and help demonstrate the photographer's talent and respectful approach. 

Online Reviews: If the photographer had a positive experience with the vicar, mentioning this in an online review can help other couples when choosing their vendors. 

For Vicars 

Welcome Feedback: Vicars could check in with the couple after the wedding and ask for their feedback, including their experience working with the photographer. This demonstrates a willingness to learn and grow. 

Referrals: If a vicar had a positive interaction with a photographer, they may feel comfortable recommending them to future couples. It can create a mutually beneficial relationship within the wedding community. 

Negative Experiences: When Things Go Wrong 

Despite best efforts, sometimes even the most professional photographers and vicars encounter difficult situations. When this happens, it's important to handle the conflict tactfully and respectfully for the best possible outcome. Here are some approaches: 

Open Dialogue: If an issue arises during the wedding, try to address it calmly and discretely with the vicar on the same day. Aim to find a resolution that minimises disruption for the couple. 

Post-Wedding Discussion: If a major issue occurs, it's best to follow up with the vicar after the wedding for a constructive discussion. 

Formal Complaint: If the vicar's behaviour is deemed truly unacceptable and prior channels of communication have failed, both photographers and couples have the option to submit a formal complaint to the Church of England. Guidance and procedures can be found on the church's official website. 

 

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A Final Word 

The relationship between wedding photographers and vicars is an important one. Weddings are emotionally charged occasions, and when those involved are respectful professionals, the results are magical. Photographers get to capture a couple's most precious moments beautifully, and vicars facilitate a ceremony that has spiritual and legal significance. 

While there will always be a few individuals who make working together a challenge, the positive experiences far outweigh the negative ones. By prioritizing communication, respect, and professionalism, vicars and photographers can collaboratively create lasting memories that couples will cherish for their entire lives. 

Looking to the Future: Embracing Collaboration 

The discourse prompted by Rachel Roberts' petition and the conversations it sparks shines a light on the potential for greater collaboration between wedding photographers and vicars across the UK. While the focus has been primarily on issues, the underlying desire on all sides is simple: to ensure couples have the best wedding day possible. 

The future holds exciting possibilities for further improvements in this relationship. Here are some ideas that could foster a more positive and collaborative environment: 

Industry Workshops: Professional photography organizations could partner with the Church of England to create workshops for both photographers and vicars. Topics could include respectful photography techniques, vicar expectations, and strategies for effective communication. 

Pre-Approved Photography Locations: Some churches may consider designating pre-approved areas where photographers are free to move around discreetly during the ceremony. This could offer greater flexibility while respecting the sanctity of certain moments and locations. 

Couples as Advocates: Couples play a vital role in ensuring everyone involved in their wedding understands their vision. Encourage open communication between your chosen vicar and photographer well in advance of the ceremony. 

Positive Testimonials: Both photographers and vicars with fantastic working experiences should proactively share those stories online and within their communities. Highlighting positive collaborations helps shape a new norm. 

Technology as a Tool: As camera technology continues to evolve, so do the opportunities for photographers to capture stunning images with minimal intrusion. Likewise, churches may find creative ways to integrate live streaming options, fulfilling both the desires of those in attendance and those unable to be present. 

The Benefits of Harmony 

Ultimately, when photographers and vicars work together seamlessly, everyone benefits. Here's why collaboration matters: 

Unforgettable Experiences for Couples: When everyone performs their role with respect and professionalism, the couple can fully immerse themselves in their big day without distractions. This means better photographs, a more meaningful ceremony, and the overall wedding experience they envisioned. 

Stress Reduction: With clear communication and mutual respect, photographers and vicars experience less stress, allowing them to focus on their respective roles and the needs of the couple. 

Positive Reputation: Churches that welcome photographers and foster collaborative environments gain a positive reputation within the wedding industry. Likewise, photographers known for their respectful approach will be in higher demand. 

Shared Success: The success of a wedding is the collective achievement of everyone involved. When the vicar and the photographer find harmony, their work complements each other resulting in cherished memories for the couple that will last a lifetime. 

A Call to Action 

The conversation about photographer-vicar interactions has revealed both challenges and opportunities for improvement. It's a conversation that should continue throughout the wedding industry and beyond. 

By prioritizing mutual respect, open communication, and a shared desire to create a joyous atmosphere for couples, photographers and vicars across the UK can work in unison to document those precious wedding moments in a way that enhances the beautiful, traditional, and meaningful aspects of the ceremony. 

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